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Fr. Barron comments on "For Greater Glory" (SPOILERS)
I found this movie immensely moving but, as with all themes dealing with religion in this secular society, it has had limited release in theaters. Even viewers of this film at the Rotten Tomatoes website loved it. Films where you have to think just don't get the attention they deserve!!! Keep up your good work, I saw a debate on youtube with the late Christopher Hichens and Stephen Fry arguing that the Catholic Church is not a force for good in the world, that debate needed you, Father Barron!!!
6/20/2012 7:10:18 PM
I attended the beatification of the martyrs who died in the Cristero war, down in Guadalajara, Mexico. They did a re-enactment of one of the deaths, which was pretty violent and shocking. Poor little Jose Sanchez del Rio. His death was ordered by an uncle, working as a leader for the government. His death was so violent. I would like to get up the courage to see the movie soon, while it is still in theaters. If you do a formal tour of Guadalajara, you can also see the terror and depictions of bloodshed painted in the murals on a few of the civic buildings.
There is a strong military presence as you walk the streets down in Guadalajara. When I was there, people were protesting downtown, about the current abuses of the Mexican government, taking away personal property of the citizens unfairly. I really got the sense that there is still a lot of oppressive and corrupt tactics used in the leadership of Mexico today.
6/21/2012 5:23:13 AM
Although I rarely go to the movies, I did see this movie. It was beautiful and very moving. I and many of the others viewing the movie wept as little Jose was tortured and killed. Likewise, there was a stunned silence as we watched priests being shot and hanged.
In your review of the movie, you reminded us of how Christ responded to the violence perpetrated against him in a nonviolent way. We are taught in Catholic moral theology that we can never commit a wrong for a greater good. And yet, I think of Father Vega, one of the Cristeros leaders, who did great wrong for a greater good…
I don’t believe that the positive outcome regarding suppression of religion in Mexico was solely a result of passive, nonviolence or the sight of priests hanging from poles. I think it was a combination of the efforts of the militant resistance and the economic interests of the country that forced the Mexican regime to back down. If the only response was nonviolent resistance would the outcome have been the same? I truly doubt it. I wonder which path any of us good Catholics, would have chosen, were we living in Mexico at that time? If we had weapons and saw soldiers tying a noose around the neck of a priest, would we have stood there passively? I know the answer to what I would do and I am afraid that I would need to ask God’s forgiveness afterwards.
6/21/2012 12:51:09 PM
I really want to see this movie because the subject matter is enthralling and based on true events. A reviewer for a well known Chicago news website stated that it is well made but is so "Pro Catholic" that he began to doubt the events portrayed on screen. Thankfully I'm open minded enough to ignore this reviewer's blatant prejudice and look forward to it.
6/22/2012 8:13:43 AM
the movie is timely. I'm glad that high profile actresses such as Eva Longoria are taking time to portray her Catholic faith in a relevant, contemporary movie. I have yet to see it, but parishoners at my church are excited about it and have been talking about.
There have been incidences of non-violence that have changed history, my favorite example has always been Ghandi. There may have been other factors that contributed to India's independence, but his charisma and biblical devotion were the catalyst and the main component of the movement he started. Another example is South Africa and Bishop Desmond Tutu.
6/22/2012 1:47:37 PM
In the seminary in the early 80s, I was fortunate to have the renowned Sr. Maria de la Cruz Aymes as our teacher for catechetical methodology. Three decades later, I still recall her speaking of growing up in Mexico City in 1920s. Her family hid priests and sisters in their home, knowing what it meant if caught. I remain deeply touched by her lecture that day.
6/22/2012 11:17:26 PM
I wept throughout the movie because I was so moved by the strong faith and sacrifice of the Mexican people.The most moving part was at the end when the General was converted, received the sacrament of reconciliation, he knew he was going to die----the JOY that he portrayed was striking.
6/24/2012 11:25:57 PM
Ana Maria Gutierrez
I saw the movie. I was moved to tears throughout the disrespect and murder of priests and the desecration of the churches and sacramentals was shocking and the mass murder provoked a deep pain in my heart. I was especially touched by the young Jose Sanchez del Rio. I know some report monetary gain as a reason for Mexico's cooperation, but in the 60's the Mexican government forced US companies out and in the 90's priests were still not allowed to wear their collar in public and Catholic schools today bear secular names to avoid government problems.
6/25/2012 12:37:19 AM
Hi Father Barron,
Thank you so much for an awesome video post! I have not seen this movie yet but hopefully will be able to see it soon!
This might be a little unrelated to the video, but I was wondering if at some point you could comment on the now-prevalent concept of judgement: i.e. if you tell someone that you think what they're doing is wrong and attempt to correct them, you're judging them and therefore your correction has no validity... As a college student I come across this all the time (especially when it comes to things that people take personally) and was wondering what your thoughts were and what the church says about judgement and correction (and the difference between the two). This concept is very prevalent with our younger generation as "tolerance" has become the norm... you kind of touched on it in your recent "why it's ok to be against heresy" video but was wondering if you've come across this particular issue at all and if so what your thoughts are on it.
Thank you again and have a great day!
6/27/2012 9:45:45 PM
I find in a movie a lot of similarities to the time of Maccabeus uprising in the history of Israel.
7/1/2012 5:03:44 PM
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