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Written Word > Articles & Commentaries > October 2011 > What Faith Is and What it Isn't
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Kathy
Beautiful analogy! Relieved you put it out here that scientific reasoning does not lead us away from faith, but closer; our intellects indeed are our gift from that same Person who Loved us into being. God Speed!
10/27/2011 3:09:28 PM
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John
Amen, Father! I've been following you for a while and really enjoy your commentary - it's a breath of fresh air in a polluted world.

As a scientist, I always tell people that I rely on faith daily in my own work - I must trust (and therefore have faith in) all of the work that has come before me and which guides my own research. As I stand on the shoulders of the men who have come before me, I must have faith that the work they did is true and that they didn't manipulate the data for their own gain (actually pretty likely given the kind of pressures there are to publish...). I always find that this at least puts a crack in the door of the mind of those who claim science is opposed to reason.
10/27/2011 4:06:06 PM
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Maureen
Father, you are one of Catholicism's most erudite and passionate ambassadors. Your writing, as always, is simply brilliant!
10/28/2011 10:54:30 AM
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ethel
Father, when it comes to Faith I often remember St. Augustine who fought with Faith. He just would not believe until God's grace through Christ began to overflow in his soul thus enlightening many.
10/30/2011 8:37:11 AM
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Mina
Thank you,Father.Exactly the message I was looking for...
11/3/2011 4:05:59 AM
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Rob
Fr. Baron. Yes. Faith exalts reason. Faith has its own method.
11/3/2011 4:19:33 PM
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Joseph
As I strive to grow deeper in my faith, I am asking God more to be Holy Love, ie. To love God and neighbor. To become a man of action. As I read scripture you can see how St. Paul became Jesus to the people he associated with and how they were influenced by the truth of Jesus Christ. The call to awaken what it means to have faith and to live the faith is a great blessing from God, and proves that He is alive and well and always seeking our welfare and eternal salvation.
11/13/2011 9:58:33 AM
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Laura
“Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth” (Fides et Ratio, John Paul II, 1998). This has been a major driving force in my scientific research and teaching career of over twenty years.“And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”(John 8:32). Truth is found through knowledge and accepted through faith. In science there is a leap of faith as we accept what others have studied before us as a basis for "truth". We, scientists, feel more "comfortable" in accepting the scientific truth as we exhaust our investigation of the data. Similarly, as we spend human time on getting to know God and His Creation, our faith grows, inevitably.... and wonderfully.... Pride and skepticism go together. Unfortunately, one sees a lot of this in the scientific world, where pride and high self-confidence are seen as assets and almost a requisite for "success". If we'd just surrender and follow our most natural and intimate tendencies in the perception of the world around us, we will naturally find ourselves in communion with our Creator. I think that Faith is to surrender, and to accept that we do not know it all, that we can't know it all, at least for now. I love your writings and talks, Father, and I find myself totally hooked to the Catholicism series. Each episode I watch over and over, and delight myself in "dissecting" each one of your sentences. Thank you for being such an inspiring intellectual and lover of the Divine Truth. God's Blessings to you in your apostolic work.
11/26/2011 10:33:05 PM
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susan doepp
Father, as a cradle Catholic, I have come to your website to help me in my crisis of faith. I know that without doubt, it wouldn't be called faith, but my doubt grows as my faith wanes, probably ever since I learned as a child that heaven is not really just beyond the clouds.

I have spent much time recently imagining what life must have been like in Jesus' time. How did people live? Life must have been very tenuous, with conquering powers slaughtering and enslaving whomever they choose, with lack of accountable judiciousness and policing (people were stoned by mobs at will due to the smallest of misunderstandings or misinterpretations), with lack of medical knowledge of the causes of hysteria, manic depression, drug and alcohol abuse and the lack of institutions to manage these illnesses. How many people roamed the countrysides espousing various God-related ideas? How many people were desperate to find someone, something, they could grasp onto to give meaning to their oh so vulnerable lives. Why do I feel convinced that if it hadn't been for St. Paul, there would be no Christianity today? Why do I think that the only reason Christianity survived is because St. Paul took his message of eternal life to those who most needed to believe in something beyond this life?

in all sincerity, how do I rein in these poisonous thoughts? please help me to understand.
12/7/2011 9:11:01 AM
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Laura
Susan, I don't know what Father will say, but I don't believe your thoughts are poisonous...maybe just a little limited. How is the world you imagine 2,000 years ago any less frightening and overwhelming than today's world? There are thousands of churches epousing their God-related ideas and folks with serious mental challenges wandering the streets or simply medicated out of reality. Don't underestimate the genius of the ancient times as well. The folks of 2,000 years ago were sophisticated and informed. True, they knew different "facts" from us, but they were intelligent and reasoning all the same. Read some of the ancients and you will not take such a dim view of our forefathers (or foremothers) in the faith. And they were happy people too! The joy of learning, fellowship, community, the arts, these were all present in the believers of the past. Instead of locking God into the time of the New Testament, maybe you will be able to find Him in today's world? His truths do not change. Growing in love is the job and the Catholic community is the knee at which we were to grow. Hang in there!
12/20/2011 5:13:58 PM
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Chesire11
Susan-

I have to agree with Laura, that these my be difficult and troubling thoughts, but that they are not in fact "poisonous" at all. These are all valid questions that you raise and I suspect that in them, The Holy Spirit calls out to you, offering you a venue to come to a deeper faith and a more perfect knowledge of God. The questions are challenging, but necessary - how are you to realize the answer, without first asking the question.

The questions provide you with a choice; to risk your faith as it is, by searching beyond your current conceptions and conceits, or to deny the questions and retreat from the search for truth, which is God. The former is a path of growth and true faith, while the latter is like the house built upon sand, of which Christ warned us.
1/7/2012 3:57:35 PM
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Robenson Joseph
Very good father and keep up the good work.
1/12/2012 11:57:56 AM
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Jay
Chesire11 - beautifully said. Thank you.

Susan, I agree your thoughts are not poisonous at all. You are in very good company - St. Augustine, blessed with a superior intellect, searched much of his life for answers to similar questions, left no stone unturned, and finally found his way to the Truth. God Bless you on your journey.
1/16/2012 11:29:34 AM
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Frank
I am not a Catholic. I was raised a fundamentalist baptist and then "converted" to evangelicalism and now seem to be on a trajectory towards agnosticism.

I enjoyed reading this and the response to the "I love Jesus but Hate Religion" video.

I am, however, left with a question. The Catholic Church seems to require that I believe THEIR reading of Scripture and THEIR interpretation of what God "says". Why can I not do this for myself? So, I am required to have faith on two levels...1) I must believe God "spoke" and 2) I must believe the Catholic church is the source for the authoritative word on what God said (or what his words mean).

Am I missing something? I think it's on point 2 I struggle. I look at the history of the "Church" and...well, I doubt.

I think I've come to the conclusion that my ultimate faith is in doubt. I don't say this to my credit.
1/22/2012 8:45:00 PM
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Richy
For "Frank i am not a catholic" : i think your grovelling with point#2 is very normal but may be best understood when you see the "Catholic" church in that original sense of the GK word "katholikos" universal. The church is the universal community of believers who come to agreement on the overall aspects of divine revelation. In the case of scriptural interpretations no one is saying various lines can not be interpreted one way or another but their is also a universal sense of overall scriptures and "the authority" of the universal "catholic" church guides the individual in their interpretation. Mind you that many great minds of women and men contribute to the overall biblical scholarship and understanding of scriptures that all individuals benefit from and can learn from .No one single person has all the answers. May i suggest you read the beautiful Vatican II document DEI VERBUM On Diivine Revelation for further insight and illumination. God bless you in your journey seeking the TRUTH about yourself and our Creator and Lord.
1/26/2012 10:03:18 AM
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Joby
Hi Frank.

I write this with respect and understanding. I put myself in your shoes and I know how odd it seems that a Catholic needs someone to tell him or her how to interpret a Biblical passage. Assuming that we may interpret Sacred Scripture as individuals, because we have different backgrounds, we can also assume that this will result in different interpretations: and I assure you that for a Catholic that sounds strange. Allow me to offer my shoes so you may see why this is from a Catholic point of view.

When interpreting a Biblical passage, Catholics employ something we call “Sacred Tradition.” It is not something we do, but something we know. See, one thing we cherish about the Catholic Church is that she can trace all her doctrine and teachings from the apostles themselves. These apostles lived and ate with Jesus himself. Whenever other people didn’t understand his teachings, Jesus would explain it to them in private (as with the parable of the seeds.) It would be difficult to imagine that they didn’t ask him questions when they themselves didn’t understand what he was said or did. So these teachings (whether or not they got written down in the Bible) were passed on by the apostles, the first bishops, down to the next generation of bishops, and so forth – making sure that nothing is added nor subtracted from the original. In short, we can say that what the Catholic bishops are teaching us today is the exact same thing that Jesus taught 2000 years ago to the apostles.

So, when we superimpose that background on scripture, Catholics believe there can be only one interpretation of a teaching – which is the way Jesus taught it and explained it to the apostles; and what better way to know it than thru the bishops who we know have received Christ’s teaching in-tact.

As a Catholic I think Jesus has left us a wonderful gift: a Church that can tell us, with authority, what is meant by a certain Biblical passage.

I hope this helps a bit
2/11/2012 4:06:07 AM
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Bernard
Thank you for this interesting subject. Faith and the lack of it has always been an issue with me. The bible texts send very clear messages but these are are sometimes glossed over by the church. And Church teachings on several issues do not often have the biblical support. I find myself questioning the authority of even the pope when history has shown many of them to be fallible and prone to human weakness. Yet in all of these doubts I always come back to the 'fold' so to speak but with doubts still remaining at the back of my mind. A situation I find troubling.
2/20/2012 3:47:32 PM
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Sarah
Fr. Barron you are a well spring in the middle of a desert. I am coming from the Protestant tradition but am currently in the process of converting... although I grew up surrounded by the Catholic tradition as my Grandmother was a devout Roman Catholic. Anyways, I have really enjoyed watching your commentaries on youtube which has been a relatively new discovery of mine and now it's the first time visiting this website. I love what I am seeing and reading.

What I love is the fact that there is enough given to make us think and you ask good questions and any good teacher knows how to ask the right questions... which we all know is actually for the sake of the learner.

Over the years faith has been a somewhat mystical term for me... but I'm beginning to value to the phrase "infinitely knowable" ... and so it's not even close to believing in some mythical character but rather a being all of creation points to and if all of creation points to a Creator we know science cannot possibly be our enemy but rather our friend... it takes more faith to believe all of creation came into being by accident. Like a I say, "I believe in the big bang theory... God spoke and BANG! there you go... the big banger causing the big bang... it is less logical to suggest we evolved from tadpoles that somehow evolved to apes that somehow evolved into humans... therefore faith really is about encountering what is or what can be hidden...

The word "faith" can be one of the most misunderstood word because so many people use the word faith to mean so many different things and more often then not.. at least within the Protestant tradition, perhaps more the case within the charismatic camp, the term faith is more or less to describe explainable things like miracle healing... but more often then not when people believe something they can't adequately explain they sum it up as being faith when really they should rather be saying they're really just ignorant and there might be something wrong with their conclusion and really in all honesty I really believe that is why the term "faith" is not understood in proper context.
3/9/2012 3:19:24 AM
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